Robin Your enthusiasm for sharing your knowledge and your attention to detail are truly inspiring, and your desire to achieve the best quality work never wavers. In our industry, there is often a reluctance to share important information, or simply no time to share as jobs need to be completed quickly. Your culture of aiming for perfection, combined with your cheerful attitude and enthusiasm, is exactly what the construction industry in the UK and Ireland needs. I hope your channel continues to grow, helping the next generation of carpenters, and inspiring those like myself who have been in the industry for 20 years. Thank you for all that you do.
Hi Declan, thank you for your message mate, it makes it all worth while when another member of our industry like you gives me a boost through a comment like yours, it is difficult trying to capture footage and also get the work done but do want to share my knowledge to as many people as I can especially the next generation of trades people!! Have a good weekend Declan
Well your certainly doing that Robin, thank you for what you do and who you are, I have learnt from and adopted many of the things you have to taught us into my daily work life as an "all rounder", so thank you again and keep going, your completing your new goles in life 💪👊
Theses types of videos are Robin at his best and could watch all day long, everything is at slow pace, calm and brilliantly explained.👏🏻 just a treat to watch…….oh and love the stunning oak tree over the garage
The only problem with Robin doing these videos on roofing carpentry, he make it look too easy . Remember people he has been doing this for years and is a master carpenter, but even so watching this l believe taking it easy on maybe a shed to start I could do it. A good teacher is essential in any task and oh my god he is.
Here's me checking my old B&Q rafters/framing Square and realising how much info is crowded on it and it becomes incomprehensible to me. Then you have your Rafters/framing Square, showing all the necessary information you need, in a clear and comprehensive way. Nice one.😊
A truly comprehensive demonstration, Robin. I haven't seen a framing square quite like what you have, but can see the advantage in having one. Nicely done.
Lovely job Robin. If anyone finds it a bit tricky cutting that hip edge cut with cupped timber, it can help to nail a temporary guide to the hip, using a piece of tile batten or a small offcut to run the base of the saw against. You must remember to allow for the distance from the face of the blade to the edge of the saw base. It will add a minute to the operation but will ensure an accurate cut. 👍🏼
It is admirable how you share your knowledge Robin, I learnt Cut & Pitch from a book along with pythagorum and then bought a ready reckoner. After watching your video a while ago I pitched a double hip using the direct measure method, Soooo much easier. No convoluted equations and brain strain anymore 👌👍💪🙏
Another great video. I’d love to see you demonstrate building/ framing a semi octagonal roof in metric in the uk, possibly with your new metric roofing square?? There literally isn’t one full explained video any where. Like no one has done it, especially direct measure in the UK👍👌
hi robin you simplify your roofing joints ......im not a carpenter but your teachings i am slowly grasping your way of doing it ...thank you and well done to you ...as for your own home project my i commend you on a perfect job well done you are a true master of your craft
I learnt something today. I’ve never cut the plates to make the hip birds mouth site correctly. When I was taught I was taught to over cut it and it was always kind of a guess. I like the more actuate way. Thanks again for a great explanation
Always enjoyed those videos. Ages ago i used to work with an old chippy. He had this little book where you can look for all the measurements you need when building a roof. Hip, valleys even jack rafters, no harm checking with the tape measure though.
Love the little bit about plate corner. Unrelated question, do you place any "insulation" between bricks and plates? I am worried that dampness from concrete will seep in to the timber and rot it
i'm a bit old fashioned as i would have fixed a saddle to the top of the two commons making sure to set that rafters back the thickness of the saddle to keep all the pitches the same, and also would have been wary of the external brickwork on the corners as it is the corner of the brickwork that is important to where the hip fixes to the plate, as we both know that bricklayers never get the blockwork and brickwork gaps correct which in most cases throws the hips out, so sometimes we need to be thinking about the cuts in relation to the plum cut on the pin rafter as this measurement would alter if the hip was being moved right to left depending where the corner of the brickwork was, as i would always be throwing a long straight edge over the pin and hip rafters along with all the jacks. on a roof at the moment where the hip was originally fitted to the plate but wasn't inline with the corner of the brickwork, creating a huge problem with fitting rosemary bonnets.... just waiting now for comments from bricklayers.... nice vid though.
Exactly how I do it Robin, direct measurements. I might in a pinch double check the calculator says a very similar thing if it’s an expensive bit of wood. After being a qualified carpenter and joiner( 15 yrs), I got ‘pulled’ on a skills assessment test in Oz, for direct measurement of jacks! 🤷 he tried to show me something, but I just know what works for me.
Hi Robin, great series, really enjoying it and very insightful.. I might have missed it if you have explained it already but how do you work out the ridge length when building a hipped roof… i.e how do you know where the ridge board stops and the crown should start? Thanks, Sam.
Check my video before this where I talk about the position and making of the plates for a hipped roof, from this you can work out the ridge length along the wall plates
Hey Robin, is there any way possible to purchase a carpenter square like the one you use in this video Thank you, Ron Reno from Burlington, Vermont USA.
hi robin when setting out using your method if the building is out of square or not symmetrical in width one end to the other do you just offer the template piece up to the ridge & either add on or cut off to fit in or do you use another way cheers bri
The thing I struggle with is the 45° cut at the top end. The plan view makes complete sense but how does that equate to 45° cuts. Why does the angle not change?
Easier way of marking the length of hip is once youve marked the thickness of the hip at the apex where it touches the common/crown rafters, ill plumb a line down on one of the marks and measure down your height above plate. This gives you the direct measurement then you can measure along the top of the hip and then just mark the plumb cut and measure HAP. Simples!
Crown down on roofs ! Slates and tiles dont sit right on cambers, in the old days they would set the perlins an inch or so down and pull down the rafters to make them concave,it was called springing the roof even the perlins were set crown Down! I have an old carpentry book somewhere that backs this up!
Never heard of crown down on anything! I have seen old buildings that look how you’re describing but I believe that is due to small timbers and being re roofed with a heavier covering!
When i find it i will post it, as for heavier coverings it would have to be a serious weight to change the camber dont you think? And timber gets harder over time not softer, and if you look at old slate roofs, the tiles are always super tight and on new roofs you always see gaps(front to back) im a second generation joiner with twenty years in the game, robin is the best British carpenter on RUclips by far, but not everything he says is perfect, and alot of good knowledge has been lost in this due to shit apprentice schemes, also if you look at Japanese roofs they are all concave , not just to look pretty, because the tiles sit tight! There are also a few structual reasons also but its hard to explain with out drawing it out , sorry about the if it seems like a rant but im passionate about my trade!
I can’t find the really old book I saw it in, but I have found Small reference to this in W E Grey, The carpenters metric roofing ready reckoner, page 49
it certainly makes tiling easier if a decent joiner has put the roof on. i'm on a roof at the moment on a nice house from 1930. i have replaced so many rafters as the original joiner was terrible, yes they were even bad in the old days, but replacing them has given a dead straight roof.
Same in engineering Robin.... measure twice, cut once ! PS....you need to ask Mrs C to sew up the right leg of your jeans.... you're showing far too much leg for decency 😂
Never seen a building square like that, good peice of kit,but remember most people would not have a clue what you are talking about, you have to treat them like 14 year old children. I just use tan 35 deg. x half span gives the rise etc
Robin
Your enthusiasm for sharing your knowledge and your attention to detail are truly inspiring, and your desire to achieve the best quality work never wavers.
In our industry, there is often a reluctance to share important information, or simply no time to share as jobs need to be completed quickly. Your culture of aiming for perfection, combined with your cheerful attitude and enthusiasm, is exactly what the construction industry in the UK and Ireland needs.
I hope your channel continues to grow, helping the next generation of carpenters, and inspiring those like myself who have been in the industry for 20 years. Thank you for all that you do.
Hi Declan, thank you for your message mate, it makes it all worth while when another member of our industry like you gives me a boost through a comment like yours, it is difficult trying to capture footage and also get the work done but do want to share my knowledge to as many people as I can especially the next generation of trades people!! Have a good weekend Declan
Well your certainly doing that Robin, thank you for what you do and who you are, I have learnt from and adopted many of the things you have to taught us into my daily work life as an "all rounder", so thank you again and keep going, your completing your new goles in life 💪👊
Theses types of videos are Robin at his best and could watch all day long, everything is at slow pace, calm and brilliantly explained.👏🏻 just a treat to watch…….oh and love the stunning oak tree over the garage
joy to watch robin will never be out of work
The only problem with Robin doing these videos on roofing carpentry, he make it look too easy . Remember people he has been doing this for years and is a master carpenter, but even so watching this l believe taking it easy on maybe a shed to start I could do it. A good teacher is essential in any task and oh my god he is.
Here's me checking my old B&Q rafters/framing Square and realising how much info is crowded on it and it becomes incomprehensible to me. Then you have your Rafters/framing Square, showing all the necessary information you need, in a clear and comprehensive way. Nice one.😊
Best explanation I’ve seen of fitting the hip thanks
Awesome, thank you!
A perfect fit. The Wood Wizard strikes again. Thanks for sharing your knowledge so freely Robin.
A truly comprehensive demonstration, Robin. I haven't seen a framing square quite like what you have, but can see the advantage in having one. Nicely done.
Lovely job Robin. If anyone finds it a bit tricky cutting that hip edge cut with cupped timber, it can help to nail a temporary guide to the hip, using a piece of tile batten or a small offcut to run the base of the saw against. You must remember to allow for the distance from the face of the blade to the edge of the saw base. It will add a minute to the operation but will ensure an accurate cut. 👍🏼
Robin, the all-weather craftsman.
The measure of a true craftsman, making a difficult job look so easy, thanks for the video and many more of them please.
It is admirable how you share your knowledge Robin, I learnt Cut & Pitch from a book along with pythagorum and then bought a ready reckoner. After watching your video a while ago I pitched a double hip using the direct measure method, Soooo much easier. No convoluted equations and brain strain anymore 👌👍💪🙏
Another great video. I’d love to see you demonstrate building/ framing a semi octagonal roof in metric in the uk, possibly with your new metric roofing square?? There literally isn’t one full explained video any where. Like no one has done it, especially direct measure in the UK👍👌
hi robin you simplify your roofing joints ......im not a carpenter but your teachings i am slowly grasping your way of doing it ...thank you and well done to you ...as for your own home project my i commend you on a perfect job well done you are a true master of your craft
Thank you Stevie!!!
Robin... you certainly have skills to pay the bills!!!!! A1!! Great demo thank you!
I learnt something today. I’ve never cut the plates to make the hip birds mouth site correctly. When I was taught I was taught to over cut it and it was always kind of a guess. I like the more actuate way. Thanks again for a great explanation
Beautiful to watch! Those roofing squares look very useful Thank you for producing such interesting videos Robin
My pleasure!
Very Impressive! Great Work Robin, and thanks to Nathan we can all see it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Too Good! So helpful and Thanks for sharing skills in detailed steps.
As a civil engineer with no experience of roofing your video was absolutely brilliant and highly informative Robin. ☘️☘️
Many thanks!
Always enjoyed those videos. Ages ago i used to work with an old chippy. He had this little book where you can look for all the measurements you need when building a roof. Hip, valleys even jack rafters, no harm checking with the tape measure though.
Amazing again rob! I think I’m gonna mess around this weekend with some recycled timber and have a go at a mock up ! ❤❤
Beautiful job Robin! The way you did those measurements and cuts was masterful.
Thank you so much!
As per usual, profesional video with a great explanation. Could you please leave a link for that Roofing Square Robin?
Love the little bit about plate corner.
Unrelated question, do you place any "insulation" between bricks and plates? I am worried that dampness from concrete will seep in to the timber and rot it
It’s all been said - stunning as usual. What an artist
Thanks Robin,another concise tutorial on roofing,given in a way only an old school teacher knows and of course this is the best way to learn 👍👍
Wow, thanks!
@@ukconstruction you’re very welcome 👍
Thanks again Robin another brilliant roofing video
Thanks Robin beautiful craftsmanship, I'm an old bricky trying to learn a few joinery skills of my own small one man band
Nice one Stephen!! We can all learn from each other, bet there is loads you could teach me too!! Thanks for watching
Hi Robin, where can I get your roofing square from please?
Excellent video, typical British weather in the end but powered on through
Excellent Robin, thank you
Pure genius RC 👏
Brilliant video Robin very interesting and well explained
Many thanks!
Brilliant and educational. Keep em coming robin
Can you explain how you install purlins on where king rafter
i'm a bit old fashioned as i would have fixed a saddle to the top of the two commons making sure to set that rafters back the thickness of the saddle to keep all the pitches the same, and also would have been wary of the external brickwork on the corners as it is the corner of the brickwork that is important to where the hip fixes to the plate, as we both know that bricklayers never get the blockwork and brickwork gaps correct which in most cases throws the hips out, so sometimes we need to be thinking about the cuts in relation to the plum cut on the pin rafter as this measurement would alter if the hip was being moved right to left depending where the corner of the brickwork was, as i would always be throwing a long straight edge over the pin and hip rafters along with all the jacks. on a roof at the moment where the hip was originally fitted to the plate but wasn't inline with the corner of the brickwork, creating a huge problem with fitting rosemary bonnets.... just waiting now for comments from bricklayers.... nice vid though.
Incredible quality as always regards Howard from Cyprus 🎉
Many thanks!
Measure twice, cut once, excellent rule 😊
Thank you! Cheers!
Robin Clevett roofing masterclass.
On an imperial framing square, you should have the body of the square set at 17 inches for a hip rafter, instead of 12 inches for a common rafter.
don't use traitor units over here.
Great explaining Robin! The hip and valley mark on the rafter square only work on equal pitches, right?
Yes, but I will do a video about how to simply work out the angle for a unequal hipped roof in the coming months
@@ukconstruction I would be very interested in that video, in the area in the Netherlands i work in its common that the pitches are different
Absolutely mesmerising 👍👌
Thank you
Thanks a lot 😊
Great video explained clearly appreciate you sharing your wisdom also where can I get one of your squares??
This couldn’t be any further from my last effort on a roof😂
Making it look so easy, great work 👍🏻
Exactly how I do it Robin, direct measurements. I might in a pinch double check the calculator says a very similar thing if it’s an expensive bit of wood.
After being a qualified carpenter and joiner( 15 yrs), I got ‘pulled’ on a skills assessment test in Oz, for direct measurement of jacks! 🤷 he tried to show me something, but I just know what works for me.
Check my next video of setting out and fixing jacks!!! I do both direct and calculation for the jacks depends on the size of the roof!!!
@@ukconstruction yeah I was the ‘diminishing’ thing he was chasing with me, but that was 23 yrs ago! 😂 haven’t needed it yet 🤷
get a ready rechoner mate, it'll give you every cut for everything and the lengths of the diminishing rafters when you know what centres they're at.
Hi,great video! Could you please tell me, where, I can find that framing square, which you used in this video?
Thanks!
Hi Robin, great series, really enjoying it and very insightful.. I might have missed it if you have explained it already but how do you work out the ridge length when building a hipped roof… i.e how do you know where the ridge board stops and the crown should start? Thanks, Sam.
Check my video before this where I talk about the position and making of the plates for a hipped roof, from this you can work out the ridge length along the wall plates
@@ukconstruction cheers Robin, I’ll rewatch it, thought I must have missed something!
@@samgreig6947measure length of building & take away the width plus thickness of rafter gives you ridge length , as long as it's a 45° hip
Easy like without having watched… Robin giving rafter master class always worth it. Thanks for sharing your great work
Thank you so much 😀
What about dragon tie across the corner?
Beautiful job...
Thanks for sharing this with us...
Lovely work Robin, and lovely explanation of marking out.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is the birds mouth the same as a normal rafter or different as it being the hip?
Class as always.
i use a cordless drill to take out rounded off screws, as long as there is enough sticking out to clamp in the chuck.
Hey, Robin. Any updates on the roofing square.
a proper job, by a proper tradesman
Thanks Robin explained well.
Love it, imagine being able to work with Robin!
The roofing goat if robin dont no it its not worth knowing keep up the good work
Hey Robin, is there any way possible to purchase a carpenter square like the one you use in this video
Thank you, Ron Reno from Burlington, Vermont USA.
Lovely job 👌 when is the square going to be released for sale hopefully soon, need it for my collection of framing squares 😂
Great explanation
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant vid! Love it.
hi robin when setting out using your method if the building is out of square or not symmetrical in width one end to the other do you just offer the template piece up to the ridge & either add on or cut off to fit in or do you use another way cheers bri
The thing I struggle with is the 45° cut at the top end. The plan view makes complete sense but how does that equate to 45° cuts. Why does the angle not change?
nice one. you two should work together more often.
Is your square and clamping device available to purchase? Would love to have a decent engraved inlay roofing square!!!
Interesting how to, keep up the good work 👍
Where do you get your framing square clamp? I want one!
Easier way of marking the length of hip is once youve marked the thickness of the hip at the apex where it touches the common/crown rafters, ill plumb a line down on one of the marks and measure down your height above plate. This gives you the direct measurement then you can measure along the top of the hip and then just mark the plumb cut and measure HAP. Simples!
Do you have a video showing how you put the ridge plate in?
Watch the one before this one
@Robinclevett I'm long sighted but struggling to wear glasses any suggestions
How do you know how much to bring the ridge out to size the steepness of the roof?
By Geometry, there are some videos on setting out a hipped end in the roofing videos on my channel
Watching you (as an electrician) makes me want to build a roof
Same
Reading this comment makes me want to wire a house.
Nice, I learned a lot there.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi when is the square for sale mate ,great video thanks
Not sure yet
Дякую, за цікаве та інформативне відео. У відео ви використовуєте навушники з мікрофоном, можете вказати інформацію по цих навушниках?
Great teacher
Thank you! 😃
Super job..
Thank you kindly
Crown down on roofs ! Slates and tiles dont sit right on cambers, in the old days they would set the perlins an inch or so down and pull down the rafters to make them concave,it was called springing the roof even the perlins were set crown Down! I have an old carpentry book somewhere that backs this up!
What’s the name of this book please
Never heard of anyone doing a rafter camber down! I’m 52 now and been a site chippy since day I left school. Please share name of the book🤔
Never heard of crown down on anything! I have seen old buildings that look how you’re describing but I believe that is due to small timbers and being re roofed with a heavier covering!
When i find it i will post it, as for heavier coverings it would have to be a serious weight to change the camber dont you think? And timber gets harder over time not softer, and if you look at old slate roofs, the tiles are always super tight and on new roofs you always see gaps(front to back) im a second generation joiner with twenty years in the game, robin is the best British carpenter on RUclips by far, but not everything he says is perfect, and alot of good knowledge has been lost in this due to shit apprentice schemes, also if you look at Japanese roofs they are all concave , not just to look pretty, because the tiles sit tight! There are also a few structual reasons also but its hard to explain with out drawing it out , sorry about the if it seems like a rant but im passionate about my trade!
I can’t find the really old book I saw it in, but I have found Small reference to this in W E Grey, The carpenters metric roofing ready reckoner, page 49
Love this channel.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@ukconstruction It’s brilliant Robin. 👏🏼
Looks like your getting the hang of this joinery lark mate, 😂 quality work.
What's the app called
what about dropping the hip rafter birdsmouth?
Love it!
Excellent video thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
you had me with you right until the first measurement of 3457mm then sadly my old brain gave out. 😂 i take my hat off to you Robin, bloody amazing
Hi mate been a long time since we did that together 36 years were has time gone lol
Do you sell those RC squares?
Soon
You southerners and your aerated concrete blocks! Epic as ever Rob!
I’d love to tile a roof built robin 😊pure perfection
it certainly makes tiling easier if a decent joiner has put the roof on. i'm on a roof at the moment on a nice house from 1930. i have replaced so many rafters as the original joiner was terrible, yes they were even bad in the old days, but replacing them has given a dead straight roof.
Doesn't Ed work with Robin anymore?
What nail pouch you using in this vid
diamond back
Same in engineering Robin.... measure twice, cut once !
PS....you need to ask Mrs C to sew up the right leg of your jeans.... you're showing far too much leg for decency 😂
Only improvement would be a dragon tie 👍
Beautiful job.
Thank you! Cheers!
That is how I measure, cut and fix a hip rafter in the SUN, CLOUD AND IN THE RAIN!
Good
Never seen a building square like that, good peice of kit,but remember most people would not have a clue what you are talking about, you have to treat them like 14 year old children. I just use tan 35 deg. x half span gives the rise etc